http://biz.yahoo.com/e/090814/byoc.ob10-q.html

Local Businesses Beware!

Opportunists… DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

You just proved my point. You proved you don’t understand PPC yet you are out selling it to people! You’re probably telling them things that are wrong all the time because you are ignorant and don’t know any better!!!!

Remember we’re talking about LOCAL advertising. LAL purports that people can buy zip codes. RIGHT?

I’m doing the SAME THING with my dad’s web site but I am not limited to the few zipcodes LAL allows. I’m doing it directly in Google. I’m targetting two states Connecticut and Rhode Island. AND ONLY those states.

So if you are trying to Google us from North Carolina (yes I looked up your ip address) you won’t see my PPC ads!

BTW LAL won’t allow you to target a state because they limit you to too few zip codes.

- Ben

I, like an earlier post, too am puzzled by your analysis of the PPC and your dad spending $10 per month. For CT, I googled Granite Countertops, Kitchen Remodeling, Granite and other key words that I thought logical, but didn’t come up with your Dad’s site until I typed granite crete, ct or granicrete, ct that I even saw your dad site – organically on the left. Yes, the site was on top, but if I were looking for granite counter-tops I wouldn’t have thought to get so specific. I didn’t find the site at all when I did the same in Rhode Island. Granted, I didn’t go beyond the first page, but I don’t think most consumers would – especially when there were so many options on the 1st page. What should I search to find your Dad’s site easily?

I’m glad you got some benefit from reading about Local Ad Link. That to me makes writing this blog worthwhile. If one person gets something out of it and maybe saves themselves some money (and time) then it is worthwhile to me.

- Ben Fitts
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One thing this blog and others have done for me personally is to enlighten my awareness on the MLM subject before I got involved.

Thanks for the response.

I am not a BB with them. I have run across them and am doing my due diligence before my official ‘yay’ or ‘nay’. I have found some good and some not so good. My main concern is if the ads and their ad model work. Their financials, customer support, bookkeeping, etc. can and will work out as long as their ad ‘model’ works.

I can understand they are a brand new company, and as such things are pretty chaotic at first. Customer support being non existent can be a foul-up. Bouncing checks is a whole different story. In the 10 years I owned a B&M independent bookstore, I never bounced a check and my employees got paid on time. If my bank account didn’t have the funds, I took it out of the till(recording the amounts of course). Bouncing checks is unsettling.

The ‘usual’ scams/schemes want money up front. LAL don’t want a dime up front. They have certainly found another law for Dr. Cialdini to write about.

That is a generic concept for internet search in which it is established that if you do not have what someone is looking for, they will click out rather quickly – thus the idea that you have only a few seconds to “capture” that person. When I said thousands of zip codes, I was making a point, but yes it was exaggerated to an extent. In reality, the catchment area I am in is more like 750-1000 depending upon how far someone will travel. But, the real point I was making was to mock LAL having a package for 10 or 50 zip codes – that is preposterous on so many levels.

“I pay out more in RE taxes than you make in a year…in fact, I bet I pay out more on my 40% interest in 1 apt. complex than you make in a year. So, try again.”

One, how could you possibly know what I make a year? Two, if you have RE, then that is a great investment – certainly a good long term investment and that beats out MLM by a mile. I too have some income from real estate (not a lot, but some), although, having tenants has its down side too (i.e. things break, lack of payment, etc.).

I am not making up anything – I have no reason to on an anonymous blog. And, hey if you made a lot of money in MLM, then great. I just think when the odds of making money are better in Vegas, MLM cannot be too great for the majority of people (i.e. 98%). But, again if you made money in MLM, hey that’s great.

Yes, the knicks do suck and back in the Ewing days, I was a huge fan. Has not been much to cheer about these days. Supposedly, the Knicks are going to go after Lebron in 2011 – we’ll see.

Anwyay

Peace!

Is it the ‘argument’ that those who say LAL advertising was sold and business owners are pleased with the results are lying?

From you: Joe Rose: March 27th, 2009 at 16:39 #137 Reply Quote “I do Google Ad words and pay 150 per month for about 90-120 clicks per month in a much larger region than 50 zip codes – and it goes right to my webpage. Plus, I also have my business listed for free on Yahoo Local and Google Local for added exposure”.

Then Joe/JR adds on April 2nd, 2009 at 16:46 | #158

“No offense Rich…but your post is funny….110 websites? Ghee considering like 3-4 search engines comprise over 95% of all searches on the web, the 110 LAL sold you on is BS, hype, and exaggeration. When I pay the $150 (I could pay more or less obviously) I get hits on the largest search engine in the world in literally thousands of zip codes with as many or few key words as I want…plus when a potential customer clicks my sponsored link, it goes right to my webpage…anyone that knows anything about search…you have a few seconds to capture a potential customer…even “splash” pages at your own site is not recommended for this reason. “

“Ghee” Joe, what type of medicine do you practice…what is that specialty that you only have “a few seconds to capture potential customers” from your “thousands of zip codes”.

It’s interesting how you avoid what you specialize in. You’re not afraid that I might know something about medicine are you? You whine about MLM’s but you don’t have the courage to tell everyone what you specialize in. What are you afraid of??

Reflexology…chiropractor?

BTW, regarding your “professional” comment…I pay out more in RE taxes than you make in a year…in fact, I bet I pay out more on my 40% interest in 1 apt. complex than you make in a year. So, try again.

I did make a lot of money and earned many resort trips in an MLM in the 90′s…when I did not have a family and invested much time and effort into it. And, I believe that certain people can build them to successful levels just like any other entrepreneurial venture. They are not for everyone. I came across this blog as I was researching LAL. You and I both hammered LAL but I got tired of you BS lies about your MD gig and wanted to call you out for the fun of it…and it has been fun. I just can’t wait to see how long you stall before you make up a medical specialty.

Finally, how do you think my Celtics will do this year…with Sheed?? Do you think the Knicks will ever compete again???

I agree people market it in a bad way. I don’t like people who say you only have to get 3, and teach them to get 3. I agree with you on that.

However it only costs on average $300 to $500 to join a MLM company.

McDonald’s franchises have to put up around $1.4-$1.6 million on average in total investment. AND the average McDonald’s has a profit of $338,000 not counting income taxes and fees.

So if the average person makes $80 from their investment in their MLM per month their making the same percentage of profit as some dork who invested $1.4 million in a McDonald’s franchise!

Yet I know a lot of MLM’ers that make hundreds or thousands of extra income a month all for their initial investment of $300-$500. And I’m not talking about the people who make the BIG money in MLM. Just the average joe distributor.

- Ben Fitts

Anyone with half of a brain knows you cannot make money in Scamway, Herbalife, etc., etc. Those companies do sell real products, but the true goal of any of those “companies” is to recruit more distributors – that is a big portion of how they generate the “billions” you talk about. Again, with 6 billion people in the world, their are plenty of suckers out there. But, the point is, the facts speak for themselves – 115 bucks per month – that does not even cover my phone/cable bill

We moderate all posts with links in them. If you want your post to show up immediately stop putting links in it.

JR, you rated several of the best multi-billion dollar MLM’s as scams. You need to go back and do your homework.Prepaid Legal, Excel, ACN, Herbalife? Not scams. FTC likes them. Sure some distributors did dumb things and got in trouble in specific states but the FTC likes those companies. They like the taxes they pay as multi billion dollar businesses!

They aren’t even in the same league as crap like YTB. Those are just opportunities.

Excel, ACN, Prepaid Legal, Herbalife… they had real products and real customers. The FTC requirement is that 2/3rds of all people involved need to be customers who are not in any way associated with the business opportunity. They all clearly meet that requirement that’s why they’ve been around 20 years each. If they were all scams wouldn’t they be shut down by now?

- Ben Fitts

ParagonSEO (localadcenter.net)

Patel

Please provide a substantive response to the following:

Local Ad link is an irrefutable scam.

Those engaged in the sale of the Local Ad Link program are perpetuating a fraud. Here is an excerpt from a recent blog post regarding the topic:

1. Local Ad Link’s management (McNulty and crew) have at least to some degree, operated shady enough businesses in the past to draw the ire of the SEC.

2. Local Ad Links product, as reported by its actual customers (see “local ad link ripoffreport.com” complaints on Google), is useless.

3. Local Ad Link’s directory was obsolete before it ever came out and it is completely useless as a stand alone advertising medium. The only people using it are the unfortunate victims who were sucked into the scheme.

Local Ad Link has waged a massive link building campaign in order to cover up these facts and additionally, they even purchased Paid Search positions on Google from time to time to try and fill the holes in their valueless advertising packages.

They have written hundreds, if not thousands of articles with specifically included description tags labeled “local ad link scam” and “local ad link fraud”. The reason for this is clear – it is to load the search engines with bogus links so when people search “local ad link fraud” and other search terms, the links that expose the truth are buried under these links.

This fact is significant as it exposes the INTENT to defraud as they had not only the expectation that people like Forest would expose the fraud – but they actually prepared for that eventuality. If you are an FBI, FTC, or SEC investigator reading this blog – that fact is for you as it helps to establish intent.

After all the analysis that factually exposes this con operation – from the customer complaints who have tracked zero results to the logical breakdown of the Local Ad Link directory’s position (no position of significance) in the search market/directory markets that have long established competitors that are far more useful and robust – Local Ad Link still sends its shills to these blogs to attempt to cover up what has already been exposed many times over by numerous facts – it’s a worthless service and a blatant scam.

The only people making money in this scam are the people who are hurting other people. They are duping the small business owners into believing they are getting value (that only lasts so long before they figure it out) and they are duping others into buying into a business that has no base of value.

Your claims that Local Ad Link is somehow or likely legitimate are lies. It is the furthest from legitimate.

Went to another blog because this one does not work most of the time when I try to post……Why is it hard to believe that I spend 150 bucks per month on Ad Words? Sure I can spend a lot more…but for the limited money I spend, I do get some hits from it, especially the Google affiliate sites – and like I said, the specialty is very narrow and there are few competitors, so I do not need to spend a lot of money. If you know anything about Ad Words, you do get “regions” of the country for ad placement. They do not target 10 or 50 zip codes….that’s a waste and a joke for most business owners. The fact is I do spend that on Ad Words….it is a very small fraction of how I get referrals… but, I do it so I have a web presence……that’s all. Count the zip codes in Nassau, Suffolk, Bronx, Queens, Manhattan, Brooklyn, etc. It adds up to at least 800+ zip codes – it is public information that is easily verifiable….. Why would I ever consider lying about information that is easily verified??… That’s how it works in an urbanized setting – this is not Nebraska. BTW, in case you did not read earlier, I am not a “family doctor” – never said that ever – you just made that up in your own mind – you have a propensity for that.

IMO, you are nothing but a jealous guy who can’t handle the fact that I am a highly successful professional without having to resort to the wasteful “chasing a new dream every two months MLM scam industry”….LOL, ha ha…..hey, you better run from reading this post to:

1) get to your “sizzle call”
2) gotta build that “downline”,
3) better “fake it til’ you make it”,
4) better quit your “J-O-B”
5) “Not MLM”,
6) better “work the program”,
7) “Hey look at me, I am a network marketer”,
This one creates “residual” income
9) This is an “easy system to duplicate”
10) “Just Find 3 Friends Who Tell 3 Friends, Wow, I’m Gonna Be Rich”
11) etc., etc., more BS, ha ha ha

Let’s go through the recent and not so recent scams and / or companies where there is really no business “opportunity” at all: Pre-paid legal, Excel, Burn lounge, A.C.N., YTB, LAL, Scamway, Herbalife, Melaeuca, etc. Should I go on? Hey, just ask the FTC – go to their “warning page” about the MLM scam industry…ha ha ha…LOL, LOL The fact is most MLM’s are endless chain recruitment schemes where most (i.e. 98% will not make any sustainable, legit income)…You can get angry with me for that, but hey I am just the messenger. Frank, I know, I know, you are now going to point out that there are other “mainstream” scams too – been there done that – childish logic! Two wrongs do not make a right! – learned that when I was four.

Scamway??, First, never ever claimed the PRODUCTS themselves were no good – never said that – try to stay focused now and stop putting words in my mouth…..I was talking about the so called business “opportunity” for the average Joe or should I say, the average Frank…..sure the COMPANY grossed all that money, but the distributors make jack sh&^%$….it is a known fact……see the factual report I posted above…plus, if it is such a great company with so much earning potential that YOU keep bragging about, why don’t you sign up and become a “distributor”???….you pathetic hypocrite!!…….LOL Anyone knows that there is no business “opportunity” with Scamway…sure maybe the products are good, but I am strictly talking about the business “opportunity” for the “average joe.” I know you hate facts, but for the person looking to make money in Scamway, here are some facts:

“According to Quixtar scam’s own disclosure document the average monthly gross income for an “active” IBO is $115 (or $1,380 annually).

In the Amway scam business, only 41% meet these criteria as being “active.” This also means that 59% of all distributors are NOT active.

Out of ALL distributors, only 0.82% qualifies as a Direct-level distributor. This means that 99.18% of all distributors do not qualify as a Direct-level distributor. A company where 99.18% are unsuccessful.

If you are earning 70$ per month you are in the top 11% of earners at Amway & Quixtar scam.”

Boy, now I see Frank why you do not want to join Scamway. In fact, Amway epitomizes everything wrong with MLM. As you pointed out, the COMPANY itself has lots of money (they can buy NBA teams and pretend to be good Christians too!!) and those at the very top make all the money despite the promises of riches to the average “Joe.” Remember, the average “Joe” makes $115.00 dollars per month! Whooa, Holy smokes sign me up today Frank!!! I will tell you what first you sign up and then I will go in your downline….I will be your first in your downline!!….we’ll be rich! Well, maybe not, but hey, we can say to our friends, we are “self-employed”!!…we don’t have J-O-B’s, we are not suckers!! I know, Frankie, these facts are so icky and scary!! Unfortunately, with a world population of 6 billion plus and a lot of naive people, Scamway is here to stay – Go Magic! Better luck next year! BTW, here is a great satire done on MLM (i.e. mostly about Amway) (watch the trailer – if you have a sense of humor – it is hilarious): http://www.believethemovie.com/.

Yeah, right, like I would ever meet you in Virginia – sorry do not travel to those backwards ass hick states…come meet me here in N.Y. any time Frank, any time…..what does Sinatra say in that song about NY? Meet me at the Empire State Bldg. I will give the door man my cell phone number and I will be waiting at the top for you..we can have a smoke and a drink…on me of course….LOL, LOL…

Amway did 8 Billion dollars last year. You pretend to be a Medical Doctor. I am not a Magic fan nor am I an Amway distributor though I religiously use their products…as do many top athletes (see post at bottom of page). Amway has an NBA Arena and top tier team. Dr. Rosenscam has a PC and keyboard.

Heretofore, I’m a “success” fan and Amway is successful…unlike your bitter self. And, like you, your Knicks are a joke. LMAO!
Anyone who pretends to be a M.D. for credibility, is beyond a joke…especially, since M.D.’s are some of the biggest idiots and scam artist on the planet…not to mention that M.D’s are about to be taken to their knees with NObama’s blind shirts. So, you can’t even get your made-up credibility factor correct…that is how pathetic you are.

I think your $150/month for thousands of zip codes has given my friends and I some of the deepest belly laughs that we’ve had in a long time. We enjoy your Mensa-like posts!!!!

Here is the deal. You are a wannabe and this is your only outlet. Think about it…you went to another blog and posted a rant reply to me that made no sense. That was one of the funniest friggen things I have ever seen especially since I knew you changed your moniker to JR on this blog…as I pretended not to know

Then, you posted a link on this blog to that blog from JR ( ROTFLMAO!!!!) OMG!! And, you use JR on other posts! You, my friend are friggen funny!!! Thank you so much for your innocent naive and desperate posts!

Now that BYOC is beat into submission where it should be, I have little to no reason to post on these blogs anymore….but, I will come in once in a while so I can copy and past your genius replies and email them to my buddies…so, we can talk about you and LAL over a couple Gurkah BD’s.

BTW, I will be with 3 families staying at the Charlotte Inn @ MV the last 2 weeks of July….please please come join us for a smoke and a drink. I’m sure a guy like you, with 5 MD’s working for you, spend all summer on the Island! I’ll provide all the food and drinks!

Just let me know if you will be there and I’ll leave my cell with the concierge for “Dr. Rose”! I’m dead serious. But, you have to promise to bring your zip code story!!! If you bring your zip code story, I’ll even pay for a round of golf for you!! You are the BEST!! Hope to finally meet you soon.

Frank

“Nutrilite brand, aligns Ronaldinho with other world-class athletes who endorse the Nutrilite brand, including 100-meter world record holder Asafa Powell, 110-meter hurdles world record holder Liu Xiang, and 400-meter American record holder Sanya Richards”

I’ve taken these products for many years and they are the best imo. Nutrilite is a 75 year old company and if you were a real M.D. you would already know this. In our neighborhood alone, a cardiologist and a pediatric neurosurgeon has their entire family taking Nutrilite products from Amway. In addition, I drink both Xango and Mona Vie products and I know many real M.D.’s who drink them too.

In the meantime, I don’t see Dr. Rose show up anywhere for anything. I wonder how that can be given you shout out to thousands of zip codes….TFF!!

And who are these horribly misled investors dumping their money into the Beyond Commerce furnace? Does anyone do their homework on these scumbags?

Anyone that thinks “scamway” is a way to make money is not “in the know” – so stop bragging about their stupid arena or the Magic (who lost by the way – check this out too:

http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/psamain/news/MythofIncomeReport.html

Later!

By that rationale any company that designs websites for businesses is a SCAM!!! Why? Because you can just “buy a book” and make your own website. Have you heard how much some of these scam websites cost?? I mean holy cow!! They some times charge hundreds of dollars for something you can do yourself from a book!

Or what about those slicksters that open up those so-called “oil change” places? Those guys are really out to get you. Talk about a scam! I mean, you dont even need to buy a book to know how to change your own oil. Just pick up a filter and a couple quarts of oil next time you’re in Wal-Mart and change your own oil! How dare they charge $40 for something you can do yourself for half the price! Man there are so many scams, right??

I bet you guys make your own hamburgers because McDonalds uses cheap beef and marks it up to make a profit. Or maybe you make your own donuts, because everyone knows you can buy a deep fryer yourself and for crying out loud the dough is just… well dough! This Krispy Kreme is such a freakin scam!! How can they charge 89 cents for one stinkin donut that has a total materials cost of about 4 cents???!!

(ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?)

Local Ad Link is not a scam. I have personally spoken with business owners who are excited because they are generating business. One guy who runs a “tent business” that does private parties was very happy because his $99 ad landed him a $1500 job in his first month.

The point is this: business owners need a turnkey solution that is affordable and provides results. You techno-weenies don’t like it because it is dressed up in nice clothes so that business owners will gravitate toward it.

Fact is, if you pay-per-click experts had such hot programs already there would be NO ROOM for LAL to take root in the first place. This means that you haven’t done a good enough job.

On top of it all, you guys are hating on a brand new company and it will have start-up issues. Look at the well established companies. Head down to your local Home Depot tomorrow (a well-established company) and ask if they had any customer issues this week. ALL companies have issues. Even the ones YOU work for.

Guys, this is just a better mousetrap and it is getting better. Business owners like it. Sales people like it. The market likes it. It is affordable and right now there is a huge hole in the market that it will fill. If you haters have a better product, you have nothing to fear and nothing to be upset about. Business owners will switch to you over time if you have a truly better product right?

Or maybe they can just go buy the book…

BUT THEY WONT. The internet id 10-15 years old and over 40% of businesses still dont have a website. Are you going to be upset that people are actually charging business owners to build a website for them? What a scam right? When you can buy a book and do it your self?

Most people could change their own oil in their car…

BUT THEY WON’T. Do you? You can throw on some work clothes and buy a filter and some oil, jump under your car and change the oil.

Do all of us a favor. Tell the audience your occupation and age.

Its a segment for Local Ad Link services, they never claim that a person ad will appear all the time. I tested this service seeing all the buzz, yes your creating buzz for the company I assume they may think you. My information appeared on several sites. I don’t have a website for one of my businesses which is why it was smart for someone to think of this. It works with or without a website. Here’s why its not an SEO service – definition – Search engine optimization (SEO) is the process of improving the volume or quality of traffic to a web site from search engines.

Oh yeah your playing with words/ You said your dad has a PPC campaign for $10 a month. Break it down, how much is your bidding on each keyword, how many clicks in a month, what is your page rank, how many clicks turn into conversions. Give the full story! It takes a considerable amount of money to run a effective campaign — major corporations spend six figures to return 2 million or more. Here’s an example of SEO pricing – http://ezinearticles.com/?Cost-of-SEO-Services&id=410048

You focus on Google likes its the Internet itself. You know its advertising on all sites! People gain customers from Facebook and Myspace and so on. A full fledge campaign consist of multiple out lets for a businesses information to appear in front of a person’s face.

Hey people do not accept change to well and this is what this is all about. A person writes a post like this because it may effect them financially. SEO doesn’t mean you will receive more customers resulting in more revenue the customer experience is a major factor, videos, pictures, reviews, coupons, and more come into play.

I view this program and have tested from a neutral prospective for a client of mine. I have a computer science and business management background. So far their campaign has produce some results, the video and coupon worked so their happy — that’s another customer and another sale. A business owner does have time to sit down and learn SEO or SEM. I create websites and use SEO tactics and strategies, most business owners do not have them, they don’t want to sit down and take the time out to master creating a professional site – its too complex in their opinion, if they didthey would stop selling what their doing and become a competitor to me. If you are a true SEO person use the knowledge that you have and market your own services and products. Hey I’ve experienced change, the computer field suffered from outsourcing, we all adjusted, I advise the same for anyone that will try to resist change. Google is not complaining nor is any of the other companies, in fact I think they would embrace it. More information that can be found on their site. That plays into their reputation.

Jose – Pampered Chef is the same setup, you are assigned a consultant when you inquire about the opportunity – that becomes your sponsor if you get involved (now I see your motive). You said it, its a good company. Local Ad Link product is online advertising, a person does not have to recruit and can make a living off selling the product. That makes it legal just like Avon, Mary Kay, and Pampered Chef. Yes your correct there bad ones out there but business is something hard to govern —- I’ve watched a franchise subshop change hands twice in my area, each time it fails – would you say its a scam? Oh its close now and may I add its a 6 figure investment.

Its some good MLM companies out there. That word has such a negative view that the minute its said, brings out a response. It takes time before any company is judge 6 months is way to short

Patel,
Computer Science and Business Management
Webdesign, software programming and development

I sold some ads recruited some other ad sales pros and then February hit…

Commissions failed to be paid and some are still owed to this day to my sales team
Ads for my clients would disappear for weeks at a time
Billing screw ups tended to be the norm and not the exception

Fewer and fewer ads are actually showing up on 3rd party networks.

I did a test for my own small business and compared it to my premium ad $200 monthly.

I reviewed my website logs to see how many visits I’ve had from the localadlink listing….11 to be exact…at a cost of $1000.

I generated the same number of visits from a google adwords campaign in 7 days for under $20…

At the rate of actual clicks I’d estimate the spend less than 5% of my investment on the actual ppc campaign..

Is it a SCAM..NO….is it bad business and one of the worst ways to advertise…YEP!

I have to prove ROI to my advertising clients and it simply cannot be done with their current model. The stats provided in the back office are a joke and more can be found from a free stat service.

LAUNCH UPDATE

Now all ad plans under $99 DO NOT INCLUDE any 3rd party submissions (google, etc)…they are strictly put on the localadlink.com directory.

Wow….from horrible ROI to a negative ROI….smooth move LocalAdLink.

I’ve been selling advertising to SMB’s for over 10 years…you can sell em once but they will not stay if they have no ROI. As a stockholder I asked for sales stats to be released. I wanted to know how much of the sales were to actual end users who were not Brand Builders…silence is golden.

Stay away….if you are in professional sales….do not stain your rep with this company….you will not regain the trust of your hard earned clients….

We stopped in February when the ads stop showing up….our whole team has stopped as we are in the business of selling ads and not MLM jockeys…

Local Ad link is an irrefutable scam.

Those engaged in the sale of this bogus program are perpetuating a fraud. Here is an excerpt from a recent blog post regarding the topic:

1. Local Ad Link’s management (McNulty and crew) have at least to some degree, operated shady enough businesses in the past to draw the ire of the SEC.

2. Local Ad Links product, as reported by its actual customers (see “local ad link ripoffreport.com” complaints on Google), is useless.

3. Local Ad Link’s directory was obsolete before it ever came out and it is completely useless as a stand alone advertising medium. The only people using it are the unfortunate victims who were sucked into the scheme.

Local Ad Link has waged a massive link building campaign in order to cover up these facts and additionally, they even purchased Paid Search positions on Google from time to time to try and fill the holes in their valueless advertising packages.

They have written hundreds, if not thousands of articles with specifically included description tags labeled “local ad link scam” and “local ad link fraud”. The reason for this is clear – it is to load the search engines with bogus links so when people search “local ad link fraud” and other search terms, the links that expose the truth are buried under these links.

This fact is significant as it exposes the INTENT to defraud as they had not only the expectation that people like Forest would expose the fraud – but they actually prepared for that eventuality. If you are an FBI, FTC, or SEC investigator reading this blog – that fact is for you as it helps to establish intent.

After all the analysis that factually exposes this con operation – from the customer complaints who have tracked zero results to the logical breakdown of the Local Ad Link directory’s position (no position of significance) in the search market/directory markets that have long established competitors that are far more useful and robust – Local Ad Link still sends its shills to these blogs to attempt to cover up what has already been exposed many times over by numerous facts – it’s a worthless service and a blatant scam.

The only people making money in this scam are the people who are hurting other people. They are duping the small business owners into believing they are getting value (that only lasts so long before they figure it out) and they are duping others into buying into a business that has no base of value.

That’s you Arthur. Your actions define you. Is this who you want to be?

Those of you who have been taken by this con – I recommend complaining to the following entities:

The Better Business Bureau (currently they have an F rating – see http://www.vegasbbb.org/bbb_rated_acc_rpt.asp?bbbid=76222&tr=rated&lg=F&ex=15%2C18%2C19)

The Federal Trade Commission – https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

and your local state Attorney General’s office.

If his Dad was a good businessman, his business would come mainly from General Contractors, Construction Cos, and Realtors. He would not have to advertise or pay per click.

Everyone reading this post should go to Google, search his dads company and click away!

Pass this on to Dr. Rose…

Dear Dr. Rose.

At least we agree on one thing…LAL is a joke.

Now, please tell us what EMR system you are using in your “practice” and what medical ailment you target with the thousands of zip codes you said you cover for $150 per month from Long Island? Heck, I drove through 1200 zip codes on my way to my CC this morning and it only took me a 15 minutes so I do know where you are coming from. In fact, I drove a Pro V1 through 30 zipcodes off the first tee this morning!

Also, I have a partner who is heading an EMR initiative for various hospitals (the EMR clock is ticking) and I am wondering what company you use…did you buy it or are you leasing it. I spoke to Mak @ Havas and he was clueless as usual.

It is interesting how you brag about paying only $150/month yet you lose $150 in opportunity cost every time you post…since you are a “successful professional doctor with 5 doctors working for you”…you $/hr must be off the charts.

And, it is ironic that every single successful practice owner I know spends all day debating people about a topic they know relatively very little about (as per your own admission). So, it makes complete sense that you are investing so much time on these sites at such a high opportunity cost loss. Wow.

Anyway, if you are a M.D. then I am Elvis with a pet Iguanodon nibbling at my shoes. I figured now that you are out of school for the summer, you’d be living on these sites… Go do a blood chemistry profile on yourself and pay close attention to your GGT. Finally, you just lost a couple hundred dollars just reading this post

Ps. I watched the Lakers beat the Magic last night at Dr. Rose Arena. You hit the big time!!

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From Dr. Rose

Regardless of what people are saying, you are a smart man. One of the tips to a successful blog is to create controversy and dialogue. You obviously have done this.

It increased your page ranking, didn’t it?

However,

As I am reading all the comments , it appears that you are in the minority. I am not saying who is right or wrong here. All I am asking is…

was this all worth it?

Did it reveal your weaknesses?

Did you make or lose friends?

I respect the fact that you held onto your convictions and tried to give an intelligent response.

If I was a jury member, I would say that your story has some cracks in it’s armor.

My decision…

Local Ad LInk…

Too soon to call it a scam.

Thank you for the entertainment.

Unless he hit the lottery in the last 2 years, he is still broke. I’m just going on what I read from his depo that he admitted under oath in 12/05 (public records in Nevada Dist. Court for everyone to see)…assuming he was not lying to the court. Can you answer that?

Really, LAL making all these BS claims, bouncing checks, etc.

Thanks for the morality speech

Go to the website and read the FAQs, watch the short videos and get all the info before you blast a good company just because you do not understand it!

Yes I am also a Rep for local ad link but I am also a local business owner who has Health Store and I have had better results using Local Ad Link than any other form of advertising I have done to date!

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Ken

There comes a point when complaints won’t be scoffed at as coming from “goofballs” as the CEO puts it. In fact, that comment tells you much about him and it is scary that he is the LAL CEO.

I’ve questioned the CEO’s serious flaws from the begining and now I’m questioning everything about the company. And I don’t get I-Supply at all. There are thousands of sites that sell thousands of name brand products including network marketing companies. Amway has been doing that for years and it is still a very small part of their volume.

I joined when it was still 350.00 first week of 2009. It was good for about 1 month… sold ad’s… businesses were happy… and I got paid

2/15/09 the whole thing fell apart… found out they did not have an ad network that they were “pushing contextual ad’s out to up and running”… they couldn’t afford to keep paying google…false advertising,

from the 58 people I know in the biz… they have NEVER paid the residual commission for an ad. they continue to say “their working on system”. It’s been 4 months… fraud

I heard they bounced 597 checks in March, 2 were mine and I still have not been paid…

from what I hear there are several people ready to spear head a class action suite…

doubt this company will make it, they are all over the internet as a fraud, if they had to get 1.7 million from the CEO’s son’s holding company you know their hurting

this is just based on my experience, my biz ad’s, and my team
Personally I gave up even trying to collect the money they owe me